07 September 2007 at 4:01 PM EST

Immigration NOT a crime?

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Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Glenn Beck 9/7/07

GLENN: Right. But isn't illegal immigration a crime in and of itself?


GLENN: Aren't you saying --

GIULIANI: Glenn --

GLENN: You're protecting criminals by saying that being treated as a criminal is unfair.

GIULIANI: Glenn, it's not a crime. I know that's very hard for people to understand, but it's not a federal crime.

GLENN: It's a misdemeanor but if you've been nailed, it is a crime. If you've been nailed, ship back and come back, it is a crime.

GIULIANI: Glenn, being an illegal immigrant, the 400,000 were not prosecuted for crimes by the federal government, nor could they be. I was U.S. attorney in the southern district of New York. So believe me, I know this. In fact, when you throw an immigrant out of the country, it's not a criminal proceeding. It's a civil proceeding.

GLENN: Is it --

GIULIANI: One of the things that congress wanted to do a year ago is to make it a crime, which indicates that it isn't.

GLENN: Should it be?

GIULIANI: Should it be? No, it shouldn't be because the government wouldn't be able to prosecute it. We couldn't prosecute 12 million people. We have only 2 million people in jail right now for all the crimes that are committed in the country, 2.5 million. If you were to make it a crime, you would have to take the resources of the criminal justice system and increase it by about 6. In other words, you'd have to take all the 800,000 police, and who knows how many police we would have to have.

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Once again Giuliani is dancing around the immigration issue.He also never said what he plans to do with the illegals all ready here.He sounds so impressive when he talks about the enemy over seas but its only been recently that he talked about immigration.How can you defend America from threats over seas,when your heart is not willing to deal with the enemy with in?

Giuliani uses logic like this and he wants to be the President of our country! YIKES! He is as hypocritical as our present President! PLEASE HELP US, TOM!

I don't even know how to respond to this, it is so disturbing to think the GOP has come to this. What happened to my party? And I thought Hillary was was my worst nightmare, now it's Rudy. We should not pick and choose which laws we ignore, we should abide by them or re-write them.

Hello, I'm from New York city, and I know, that Giuliani is not a president material. He was not so great for New York (comparable to Mike Bloomberg) and he is not going to be good as the President for American people. Every time when he is talking about his good job as Mayor of NYC and what he has done, I want to scream loud: "People, don't trust him, he is twisting the facts for his advantage!"

I hope Tom will come out with an immediate press release denouncing Rudy for this outright lie. If Rudy is too dumb enough to know what our immigration laws are, he should get out of the Presidental race NOW! If Rudy knows the real truth, but is lying to Americans, he should get out of the race NOW!

I've read this through a few times, and I can hardly believe the contradictory nature of the whole interview. Trying to justify illegal immigrant behavior as a misdemeanor type offense, and explaining away and giving excuses for not being able to enforce the laws, and then saying the borders need to be closed to prevent them from crossing into the country(that was in the remainder of the interview on the Glen Beck site). What a mish mash of mumbo jumbo--trying to confuse those reading or listening, and not really answering the questions or solving the problem. You are right Patrice, "Help, Tom!"

Great job with the blog Alan. Let's expose Rudy for the liberal sleaze that he is.

This is off topic, but I have no place to put it. I stumbled on a website this morning called TANCREDO WATCH and it is a bunch of bashing Tom stuff. (They all must be really scared of him) Please go here:

http://tancredowatch.blogspot.com/ and defend Tom with your comments. I just left a message for Peggy Noonan to put a sock in it.

I saw on CNN this evening Rudy had a solution for NY and made the biggest city in the US the safest city. I hardly belive the last portion. He repeated himself a few times proclaiming to have fixed the problem in New York, but never mentioned what he did.

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